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“it is is thinking through the visual, the visual pieces of…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 27:25

“it is is thinking through the visual, the visual pieces of it. And then when I'm like, okay, I know this is the shape of the thing I want, then I can tell an agent to do it. But I find it hard to like involve it earlier in a way that I think some people are claiming they do, but I'm skeptical.”

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