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“four or four years, November 20. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 29:15

“four or four years, November 20. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now I was at Alyssa and then because we were debating doing a chat interface and then they did it and we're like, oh, they like stroller, it's not that was, it's necessary competing with them. But that is no time at all.”

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