“Brite Victor was, he's an engineer also a designer. I…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 48:37
“Brite Victor was, he's an engineer also a designer. I mean, he's often doing some crazy stuff now. He did about set of talks between, I don't know, it's like 2010, 2013, one of them's like, stop drawing dead fish. And it's about how like programming is not a very live medium, like, you”
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