“But you care about great design. But I do care about…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 1:07:31
“But you care about great design. But I do care about design. But the thing is, they can't, they definitely can't do design to my standards. Yeah, I have to still be really involved to get the design to look and feel the way I would make it. So I'm annoyed almost that I'm”
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