“So it's a really wonderful experience. I learned a lot. It…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 8:56
“So it's a really wonderful experience. I learned a lot. It was an intense by the end of it. I was like, step back from the start of the format. So you got into design, I guess kind of work like self-taught, like figuring out there's a need for this. You worked at EKED where you learned to design or”
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