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“A lot of the effect of consumerization in general, I…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 53:41

“A lot of the effect of consumerization in general, I think, take in place. And I look a lot at inspiration of non-software categories of what that means. And when you look at some of, you know, the success stories and shoes, right, you know, I like to run. So I specifically look at running shoes and there are new…”

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