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“So that is kind of, for me, as always, don't talk about…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 1:03:21

“So that is kind of, for me, as always, don't talk about it. Build a small prototype and show it in the way where it's not a video. It's that they can, on their own device, touch it and, you know, use it. And you'll see a vastly different response. So I have this so often with the design team. If I, you know, mock up…”

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