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“CI, CD build times. It was about user experience. How…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 13:07

“CI, CD build times. It was about user experience. How smooth does it feel? How fast is it? How many taps do you need? So you kind of kept this focus even as you started your next startup, right? That was a mobile iOS for startup craft, craft talks. How, and by that time, you've seen in both. You've seen the back end…”

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