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“Yeah, I mean, you're right. This isn't the first time that…” — Software Engineering Daily at 28:18

“Yeah, I mean, you're right. This isn't the first time that we've had sort of these jumps in level abstraction. This is maybe a larger leap than we've seen historically versus assembly to C, C to C++. But with each of those transformations, there's also, I think, a pocket of engineers that resist that transformation…”

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