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“like explore and see how much you can learn quickly and…” — Software Engineering Daily at 30:14

“like explore and see how much you can learn quickly and adapt quickly. And I think the majority of engineers that came in with the mindset that you called out before, if I want to automate the things that I don't need to do anymore, that's how I can get out of doing anything that's not fun. That's the same group…”

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