“And so interesting schools of thought if you get really…” — Software Engineering Daily at 37:01
“And so interesting schools of thought if you get really down to the heart of the value and ROI of doing the development in the first place. Yeah, I think that's interesting. It's kind of like in the world of developer experience, you look at things like time to first API call or something like that as a sort of…”
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