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“And I think the biggest learning I had in the last, like…” — Software Engineering Daily at 44:43

“And I think the biggest learning I had in the last, like, almost seven years now is the balance between mind, body, and soul. In the early days of Vinalize, it was all about, like, working super hard, not sleeping. But now I learned that I can work, like, much harder by also, like, meditating, breathing, finding that…”

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