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“I think that's a great one to end on. Yeah, you know, just…” — Software Engineering Daily at 46:45

“I think that's a great one to end on. Yeah, you know, just always leaning into problems or not. Someone else said, you know, it's not failure, it's feedback. And I think that's always a great way of looking at things. So thank you so much, Emery, for coming on today. I think, you know, we've learned a lot here, you…”

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