“that on. And I didn't I didn't know if I was sure that we…” — The Vergecast at 36:36
“that on. And I didn't I didn't know if I was sure that we would get there or even if I was excited about the possibility of getting there, it wasn't something that I would have been able to recommend to someone to spend their real hard earned money on not yet. It was still something that”
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