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“You know, you think about the journey that kind of maps…” — Software Engineering Daily at 4:13

“You know, you think about the journey that kind of maps have gone through. 20 years ago, if you wanted to go off on a road trip somewhere, right, you'd probably have a physical version of the maps, that giant thing that you would unfold eight times and it'd be the size of, like, you know, take up your entire…”

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