“So just at 18, I mean, I just graduated high school. I…” — Pod Save America at 1:04:37
“So just at 18, I mean, I just graduated high school. I went straight into college. I went for photography. I'm just trying to figure out life at that time. I didn't know what I was doing. I was, I was just, I don't know, I guess making wrong decisions. Just, just hanging with the wrong crowd. Not really hanging with…”
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