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“Visitors described modern yet very elegant furniture and…” — Fresh Hell Podcast at 37:01

“Visitors described modern yet very elegant furniture and expensive carpets, polished wood, upholstered chairs, you know, heavy curtains, tasteful lamps. Yeah, that makes sense. If you're trying to entertain bankers and industrialists, wealthy people, then the space has to look like it belongs to somebody that's worth…”

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