“You should need a poll to talk about these things, but if…” — Pod Save America at 36:02
“You should need a poll to talk about these things, but if you do, you now have the polling to stiffen your spine a bit. Yeah. I also think it's a good lesson in how polling should be used, because usually there's this argument like, should we follow the polls? Should we not follow the polls? And as you know, polling…”
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