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“But if we didn't talk about it, if Democrats all decided…” — Pod Save America at 40:15

“But if we didn't talk about it, if Democrats all decided not to talk about this and not to make a big deal of it, then he probably still would be very popular in immigration because most people in the country wouldn't know that it happened. Yes, we have agency here. And the same thing happened. We just talked about…”

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