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“I think it is really on the shoulders of the person in…” — Pod Save America at 1:05:10

“I think it is really on the shoulders of the person in charge, of the leader. And I write on how to do this to make it clear that you should have a place at work where you can do your job and know what success looks like and that you don't have to be miserable every day doing it, but it also doesn't need to be the…”

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