“In politics, right? The culture, it is the worst version…” — Pod Save America at 1:07:26
“In politics, right? The culture, it is the worst version of what I call a hustle culture, right? You're supposed to be working all the time. And if you're not working all the time, the way it's understood by so many people, if you're not working all the time, then either you're doing something wrong or you're not…”
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