“push the court and maybe defy court orders because you…” — Pod Save America at 32:38
“push the court and maybe defy court orders because you want, or you want the court to give you favorable rulings because the court is afraid that if the court gives you, gives Donald Trump like rulings that he doesn't like, then he'll say, fuck you. And then that'll be it. Right. The court needs to balance its…”
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