“There's like a way in which their kind of base…” — Pod Save America at 39:48
“There's like a way in which their kind of base incompetence and then their kind of like viciousness work together here, which is they didn't know or care very much about what USAID did. They didn't care very much or know very much about what PEPFAR did before. They have an ideological set of assumptions about…”
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