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“carelessness that is just like it's beneath contempt and…” — Pod Save America at 40:31

“carelessness that is just like it's beneath contempt and the stakes are so high. Yes, there are many ideological kind of warriors, but a lot of the people at the top of this are just capricious, glib fools that don't understand that they just don't care that they're playing with matches. But in some instances, it's…”

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