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“So it's exhaustion-based, is what you're saying? A lot of…” — Conan Neutron's Protonic Reversal at 57:52

“So it's exhaustion-based, is what you're saying? A lot of the way I write music is exhaustion-based. It has to be like, do I have energy for this part right here? Maybe I'll make an executive decision and put a part where I'm not playing a lot of drums really fast, really hard. And then I'll catch my breath for a…”

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