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“So I can rub off on me. That's it. I don't want to be…” — METRO with Sarah Koenig at 25:52

“So I can rub off on me. That's it. I don't want to be around bumps, man. I'm fucking almost 40 years old, bro. Before most of these guys were hired, Max had a bunch of people around him who turned out to be untrustworthy that he told me.”

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