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“There's a cathedralthinking.com website about that…” — Motorcycle Men at 1:04:49

“There's a cathedralthinking.com website about that philosophy, which has been around for 100 years. I had nothing to do with creating it, but I'm a bit of an apostle. So I speak about that. And there's a TED Talk on there about it in a recent interview. But there's a whole bunch of stuff because it gets used in…”

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