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“But the thing about their kits is they still put a wood…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 32:39

“But the thing about their kits is they still put a wood re-ring where the head touches the shell. So it's like true contact metal to drum head. It's still like a wood-bearing edge meets the drum head. So they're very warm, very loud, and just beefy drums. They love vintage Gresh. They love vintage Ludwig. They try to…”