“a fun time on stage, I was like, that's a job? Like, you…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 7:54
“a fun time on stage, I was like, that's a job? Like, you could do that? That's a thing? And, you know, I didn't necessarily want to be in a band, but I knew that I wanted to just play an instrument on stage. And at first, I thought it was guitar, because I loved him so long. I thought he was, you know, the funniest…”