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“and whoever's listening doesn't know what Backline or…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 14:35

“and whoever's listening doesn't know what Backline or Backline company is or what Center Staging is. It's basically just a giant rehearsal facility that provides gear for local TV shows, bands that are on tour, stuff like that. And he ended up wanting to leave his position and wanted me to take a spot. And at that…”