“Well, you've got to be all in, or at least you've got to…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 39:13
“Well, you've got to be all in, or at least you've got to create a window where you say, this six-month period of time, I'm going to buckle down. You've got to be back to the beginning of the conversation. You've got to really commit yourself to finding your way through if you're not comfortable with it. I tried that…”