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“And, you know, Mark had played in some cover bands. Mark…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 45:11

“And, you know, Mark had played in some cover bands. Mark had never had a job. I mean, that was, you know, music's a real job, as you know. Yeah, but not a lame job. A real job. Yeah, he was in cover bands like when he was a teenager and, you know, when he wasn't supposed to be in those bars and stuff. I remember the…”