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“I mean, well, I'm not knee-deep in it, you know, but it…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 51:05

“I mean, well, I'm not knee-deep in it, you know, but it seems like there's still that feel. Of course, Mark, when I go rehearse 63 Eyes, I go to his studio. It's there in Granville still. And he doesn't live there anymore, but he still has that house there where the studio is. And, I mean, it seems like at the core…”