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“music scene really or artistic scene. I just don't really…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 54:34

“music scene really or artistic scene. I just don't really see it. I don't really feel it. It's, I mean, there's, I'm looking at it obviously from the outside. So I, I mean, I've had some, we, you know, years ago, all I have to go on is, you know, we played CBGBs a couple of times back in the day. Um, and, and that…”