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“And that was a defining moment for me because, you know…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 10:11

“And that was a defining moment for me because, you know, coming from the Parkersburg area where I grew up, the original bands were not on the radio. You know, it's just so rarely did you hear anything original on the commercial radio. It's still like that, you know, local original music. And anyway, that blew my…”