“the knee-jerk response would be, you know, stick in there…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 12:41
“the knee-jerk response would be, you know, stick in there and hang in there and follow your dream and all that. But for me, I just thought it was do or die. I just didn't see any other way. I had to be in music, you know, and I had to be creating music, you know. It couldn't be – I resisted, although I played a lot…”