“Well, actually, I tried to talk him out of it. But I was…” — Demonic Sweaters Podcast at 14:50
“Well, actually, I tried to talk him out of it. But I was like, maybe look at this Tama Rockstar. You know, I sent him a couple Ludwigs and Thomas and stuff. But he was, I think that the attraction for him for that one was the fact that it had the hardware. And, you know, it was, it is a good deal. When I first looked…”