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“get something cheap. And then when they're older, get…” — Pet Chat at 20:25

“get something cheap. And then when they're older, get something fancy and big and heavy if you want once they're adults. So do we put the lead around the collar? I thought the harness was the way to go now. Or is there still debate about that? Listen, I don't usually recommend harnesses for puppies. It is better if…”

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