“So there's no direct connection. So I think that using a…” — Pet Chat at 22:37
“So there's no direct connection. So I think that using a collar is much better. And when you think of show dogs, there's no show dogs being shown with a harness on. They're all just with their slip lead over their neck and they've been run around the ring. So all that gets back to is early training. So you need to…”
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