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“It does seem like there is a bit of a backlash forming. I…” — The Vergecast at 35:22

“It does seem like there is a bit of a backlash forming. I think a lot of people know people who are addicted to their phones, addicted to betting on sports. They've lost a lot of money betting on sports. The question is whether we as a society or really as a political system have the capacity to sort of do productive…”

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