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“She went to Brian as kind of a backup, just someone to…” — True Crime Brewery at 19:09

“She went to Brian as kind of a backup, just someone to have around. Right. And she had a previous relationship with him. Yeah, she left him to be with Michael Ballard in the first place. So yeah, so if Ballard's out of the way, I might as well go back to the first guy. Yeah, it does seem that way. Now, Denise did…”

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