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“No, no, it's because, you know, it's like anecdotal, like…” — Freakonomics Radio at 23:24

“No, no, it's because, you know, it's like anecdotal, like chatter that people say. And some of it's not always from the kind of people like I don't necessarily want to, you know, there's a lot of racism. But there are people who will say, you know, there are certain kinds of people that work really well in kitchens…”

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