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“But also, it's just there is this theory that, you know…” — Freakonomics Radio at 25:21

“But also, it's just there is this theory that, you know, people who are, again, who are immigrants just work really hard to get where they are now. That also could be because, like, my family was an immigrant at one point. And I know, you know, how they suffered and what they had to do. And a lot of people I know…”

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