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“that people are people and it's really hard to understand…” — Freakonomics Radio at 28:05

“that people are people and it's really hard to understand people often, but extremely important to do so. Absolutely. Yeah, I think I need to go in my own way, reflect and think about how I need to incorporate that. Because when I reflect on my own experience, even though I am an immigrant, I didn't want to emigrate…”

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