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“I would like to be required. I want I want the like Tom…” — The Vergecast at 3:15

“I would like to be required. I want I want the like Tom Brady, Michael Jordan level of success where we do so well that we still find haters. And everybody's like, wow, the amount of rage and anger that you have to have to still find haters amongst all the success. That's what I want. And then thrive on them. Right.”

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