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“to build your business as big as you want. And then the…” — The Vergecast at 52:12

“to build your business as big as you want. And then the government fights you in an antichrist. And like, this is what we do, right? Like we have heard stories about businessmen who do most of these things for a long time. Lots of people lionize it and try to be those things. Lots of people think it's terrible and…”

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