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“Right. Like they want the perception of that…” — The Vergecast at 1:00:18

“Right. Like they want the perception of that responsibility, even as they walk back to the responsibility pledges. Right. I think there's a reason Google is like constantly talking about how responsible they are. So at least in the spaces where there's product market fit, I actually think that there's a competition…”

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