“and maybe it would be a scandal if people find out, but he…” — The Vergecast at 1:18:29
“and maybe it would be a scandal if people find out, but he just is doing it out loud. Yep. And I think that is giving a lot of people cover to not listen because they're like, no, we actually don't take our marching orders in the government here in this country. We have freedom of speech. We have the First Amendment.…”
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