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“clock his certainty at the end of it. Like, I think he got…” — The Vergecast at 1:24:28

“clock his certainty at the end of it. Like, I think he got about as far as anybody has gotten. And I don't feel like he found a definitive answer. He seems to believe he found a definitive answer. And I think John Kerry is a serious journalist who does a good job. So that's interesting. But like, I was not 100%…”

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