“Yes. I'm a big outsider. No, it's like, you know, you just…” — Pod Save America at 27:46
“Yes. I'm a big outsider. No, it's like, you know, you just tell any single person exactly what they want to hear, and then you do not deliver in any way, shape or form. That's it. That's like that is Trump to his core. I think that anti childhood vaccine stuff is like a marker of extremism.”
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